"It is a marvelous work. What if it was originally composed in Hebrew, but when properly translated into English, Russian, Chinese or another language, it retained its essence and beauty? Jews among the Christian nations of Europe were slaughtered solely because they were Jews. Accordingly, when Cyrus read this, and admired the Divine power, an earnest desire and ambition seized upon him to fulfill what was so written.--Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, p. 321. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. He declared, "I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Jews, and . . "Strikingly, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two of these copies are exactly alike in all their particulars. And to say that there is no God in this, it would require more faith on my part to believe that than it does to believe that God is in this movement." . [Lee Donaldson, "Plain and Precious Parts," Book of Mormon Commentary. 2 Nephi 15. They are inspired men, appointed to instruct God's children according to the conditions in the midst of which he finds them. This branch of Israel is by far the largest, at least by the number of involved tribes. This is an incredible revelation! And when Israel is gathered, the records will also be gathered. . This thought process is false for the following reasons-first the books that we know as the New Testament were not compiled at the time of John's writing. . 2 Nephi 29:6 Thou Fool That Shall Say: A Bible! 2 Nephi 29:14 I Am God, and . of their own tongue and nationality, speaking to them through means that they can comprehend; not always giving a fulness of truth such as may be found in the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ; but always giving that measure of truth that the people are prepared to receive. 5:26; 11:10-12; 18:3; 30:17-26; 31:9; 49:22; 62:10; Zech. Have Ye Obtained a Bible Save It Were by the Jews? Therefore, in order to justify his punishment of the wicked, his word must also be established by more than one witness. Basically chapter 27 is Nephi's quoting of the Isaiah materials found in the King James Version in Isaiah 29:6-24. So what plain and precious parts were taken away from the Bible? Apparently, he understands that we learn through repetition. The Book of Mormon, however, contained a disturbing insight--that the Bible came forth in purity from the Jews, but its plain and precious parts were taken away by the Gentiles "that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men" (See 1 Nephi 13:25-29). I Covenanted with Abraham That I Would Remember His Seed Forever: And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. They were still a distinct people many hundreds of years later, for the resurrected Lord visited and ministered among them following his ministry on this continent among the Nephites. It's from them we get our King James Bible more than anyone else. . The real meaning of the scripture is that the commandments of God should not be altered. Nibley’s Commentary On The Book of Mormon Sharman Bookwalter Hummel, Editor Selections from all Four Volumes Teachings of the Book of Mormon by Hugh W. Nibley ... Lecture 22 2 Nephi 29-31 . Or will he, so long as time shall last, or the earth shall stand, or there shall be one man upon the face thereof to be saved? A Bible! . The word "Bible" comes from "Biblea," an original Greek word not used by Hebrew prophets. Print. It was beyond the power of human wisdom; it was beyond the limit of human power. Why should we disbelieve him? Thus the head God brought forth the Gods in the grand council. All down through the ages this law has been a fixed and definite one. Indeed, the Prophet Joseph Smith would declare in 1832 that "From sundry revelations which have been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man, had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled" (, , 1:245). Ne… Nephi's version contains some information not contained in the Bible's book of Isaiah. The Book of Mormon, however, contained a disturbing insight--that the Bible came forth in purity from the Jews, but its plain and precious parts were taken away by the Gentiles "that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men" (See 1 Nephi 13:25-29). The Nephites and the Jews Shall Have the Words of the Lost Tribes of Israel: In due course the Lost Tribes of Israel will return and come to the children of Ephraim to receive their blessings. the Lost Tribes of Israel: Among the things to be accomplished by the multiple books of scripture are: (1) to give a multiple witness of Christ; (2) to show that the Lord does speak the same gospel to one people as to another, and (3) to prove that God does honor his covenant that he made with Abraham, promising to remember his seed forever (2 Nephi 29:14). Bookmarks. . . 185-186]. February 10-16 2 Nephi 6-10 Study and Teaching Helps for all ages. . 2 Nephi 29:12 is illustrative of this. Apparently, he understands that we learn through repetition. [Kevin L. Barney, "Enallage in the Book of Mormon," in, , F.A.R.M.S., Spring 1994, pp. The King James Bible translators relied quite heavily on Luther's Bible. Verses 1-4 Casey Paul Griffiths (LDS Scholar) After the devastating events surrounding the lost manuscript, it was important for Joseph to receive reassurance that his calling and gift has been restored. Baith--in, by, through and everything else. Nor do we presently possess another important prophecy concerning the Son of God. They were led north after the Assyrian captivity and have since been referred to as the Lost Ten Tribes. (A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, pp. (The World and the Prophets, p. 210). . . A characteristic often found in staircase poetry is the idea of an ascension from specific to general things. In English "you" rhymes with "blue," but in Spanish "tambien" does not rhyme with "azules." believe that they are more favored than the Patriarchs because they have the book that tells the story. He gave us the Latin vulgate, the standard Roman Catholic Bible. ", The Lord then responds to the Gentiles (plural) in verses 4 and 5, as numerous verbal clues attest. Then, just as the Perfect Shepherd has said, 'My word also shall be gathered in one' (v. 14). No, certainly not. Fourth, a very similar passage is found in Deuteronomy 4:2: 'Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.'. . . . I Nephi - Moroni. A Bible! . However, if the repetition was not the repetition of sound but the repetition of meaning, then it could be easily transferred from one language to another. [Hugh W. Nibley, Teachings of the Book of Mormon, Semester 1, p. 351] [See also the commentary on 1 Nephi 5:11 concerning the Septuagint]. [Allen H. Richardson, David E. Richardson and Anthony E. Bentley, 1000 Evidences for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Part Two-A Voice from the Dust: 500 Evidences in Support of the Book of Mormon, , p. 91] [See the commentary on 1 Nephi 13:26]. Some have titled this ancient poetic language style "Hebrew parallelism," although it is not entirely unique to early Hebrew. . 158-159]. G in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? The marvelous work and a wonder which the Lord brings to pass in the last days is the establishment of the kingdom of God on earth, the gathering of Israel, and the fulfillment of the covenants that the Lord has made with the ancient prophets. eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word" had "taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us" (Luke 1:1, emphasis added). As Brookbank explained it, "when more than one was to share in a thought, or sentiment, the plural was sometimes used to show that the single individual chiefly in mind was not the only one to whom it was applicable, and, conversely, when more than one was to be included, the singular could be substituted for the plural to show, among other things, that those to whom the thought or command, etc., was directed were not viewed collectively only, but as individuals also, who separately composed the mass." Instead, they have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. . 250 . The apostle Luke informs us that before he penned his own book ", . In the book of Deuteronomy we learn that the children of Israel were redeemed from Egypt because of the covenants made with the fathers (see Deuteronomy 4:37; 7:8). . For example, 2 Nephi 26:18, which paraphrases and quotes directly from Isaiah 29:5, is surrounded by Nephi’s commentary. Elder B. H. Roberts explains: "Elder B. H. Roberts offered the following counsel on this principle: While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is established for the instruction of men; and is one of God's instrumentalities for making known the truth, yet he is not limited to that institution for such purposes, neither in time nor place. This was known to Cyrus by his reading the book which Isaiah left behind him of his prophecies, for this prophet said that God had spoken thus to him in a secret vision: "My will is, that Cyrus whom I have appointed to be king over many and great nations, send back my people to their own land, and build my temple." One example will illustrate the point. For contemptible as the Latter-day Saints may be in the eyes of some, despised as they may be, this power that has brought this congregation together and that has gathered these people from the remotest parts of the earth is a grand power; it is a power that is beyond that of man. Downloads Male Voice (MP3) Female Voice (MP3) Entire Book (PDF) Text Settings. "Thus it is written, that Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead" (Luke 24:46, emphasis added). For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they            shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it, [Donald W. Parry, The Book of Mormon Text Reformatted according to Parallelistic Patterns, F.A.R.M.S., pp. [C. Wade Brown. they knew God personally, for they had seen Him face to face. But what if there was a divine poetry so universal in its application that it could be recognized and appreciated in every language. 2 Nephi 7. These three records are to be shared by each group so that each will eventually have the records of the others. . The Bible itself provides clear evidence that it is not complete since it mentions scriptural texts that are now missing. 13-15). xxi-xxiii]. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible" (2 Nephi 9:3) Lee Donaldson notes that the Bible's prestige was at an all time high in the United States as the Book of Mormon rolled off Grandin's press in 1830 (See Philip Barlow, Mormons and the Bible, 8). For the first time, that location—its peoples, cultures, and historical trends—are used as the backdrop for reading the text. Why is this a divine form? In other words, when poetic lines are converted from one language to another, the rhyming sounds are lost. This was foretold by Isaiah one hundred and forty years before the temple was demolished. Although there were isolated attacks on its contents, its supreme authority in the United States was generally well-accepted. The Bible, it is held, 'does not contain error of any kind.'. We would not even know of the impending third witness for Christ except through the precious Book of Mormon, the second witness for Christ! Convincing faith would, by definition, lead one to life and salvation. 2 Nephi 14. The Lord operates by the system of witnesses. Remember Jerome? . . They are apparently unaware that this same mandate was given over a thousand years earlier in Deuteronomy 4:2: "Ye shall not add unto the words which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." It is contrary to all human experience outside of this Church, to see people dwelling together as the Latter-day Saints have done and do in these valleys. Footnotes. Chapter 29 is also a prophetic chapter concerning the Book of Mormon. . We should not be surprised to find out one day that many of the writings the ancient Orient, Near East, and Africa have divine origins. They worked with the Jews, etc. , 8). What evidence do we have? If such a passage is meant to imply that there cannot be any more scripture, then everything in the Bible after Deuteronomy must be false. There will be 'one fold and one shepherd' (1 Ne 22:25 in a welding together of all the Christian dispensations of human history (see DC 128:18)." Keys are the right of presidency, the power to direct; and by this power the Lost Tribes will return, with "their prophets" and their scriptures to "be crowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of Ephraim." In verse11 it reads, For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them, and from verse 12, I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. In the second half of 2 Nephi 25:23, Nephi continues to talk using the first person plural, we: “For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23).One important point to note is that the subject we remains consistent throughout the verse. (D. & C. If there is a title page in that third set of sacred records, it is not likely to differ in purpose from the title page in the Book of Mormon, except for its focus on still other peoples who likewise received a personal visit from the resurrected Jesus (see 3 Ne 15:20-24; 16:1-4)." Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? Google Plus One Pinterest Tweet Widget Facebook Like Share on Facebook. : In 2 Nephi 29, a statement is made concerning the origin of the Bible: Have ye obtained a bible save it were by the Jews?" Who knows, perhaps this Isaiah passage originally looked more like 2 Nephi 26-27, but comparing with Isaiah 29 as it looks now in the KJV demonstrates a very complex relationship between the two texts. A 1 2. Sheit--grammatical termination. We Have Got a Bible: According to an article by Kevin Barney, at the end of the first decade of this century, Thomas Brookbank, a one-time associate editor of the, , published some articles on Hebrew idioms that suggested that, , meaning the substitution of the singular for the plural or vice versa for rhetorical effect, is present in the Book of Mormon. . . Josephus quotes the following message that Cyrus sent throughout Asia: Thus saith Cyrus the king: Since God almighty hath appointed me to be king of the habitable earth, I believe that he is that God which the nation of the Israelites worship; for indeed he foretold my name by the prophets, and that I should build him a house at Jerusalem, in the country of Judea. Introduction to 2 Nephi 29 Joseph Fielding Smith insists that the Lord has always followed [the law of witnesses] in granting new revelation to the people. 2 Nephi 29:13The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. What evidence do we have? As a student of language and a teacher of religion I came to believe the axiom, "repetition is the mother of learning." . Nephi testified that in the last days, all scriptures would work together to show that God remembers His children. 113, 116, 140]. Man in no instance, in and of himself, has ever been able to accomplish anything comparable with it. Some will quote the passage in Rev. In essence, 2 Nephi 27 (Isaiah 29) is a detailed prophecy about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. When the Lord says, I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea, He is referring to the Nephites, among others. . Its presence, therefore in chapter 29 of 2 Nephi (the only place the word "bible" is mentioned in the Book of Mormon) is regarded as an anachronism by critics of the Book of Mormon. ", Here the singular "thou" appears to be an example of enallage, driving home the foolishness of the idea to anyone who would entertain it. . . 2 Ne 2:29 the will of the flesh and the evil which is therein… giveth the spirit of the devil power (Commentary edited by David Mulholland) Joseph Smith. For is there any agreement among those maintaining such a position as to what version of the Bible should be used or what the Bible is saying on a host of matters. 2 Nephi 29:13 The Nephites and the Jews Shall Have the Words of the Lost Tribes of Israel: In 2 Nephi 29:12-13, Nephi recites the words of the God of the house of Israel, who also covenanted with Abraham that he would remember his seed forever: For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. The Words of the Nephites . The reference to "the second time" implies that there was a first time that the Lord set his hand to recover the people. This argument implies that John was writing the book of Revelation as the last chapter of the New Testament. The apostle John informs us that "there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25), emphasis added; see also John 20:30). the travails, and the labors, and the pains of, I will return all these things upon your own heads. Elder Maxwell explains what the third witness is. Where are the records of these important truths? Although there were isolated attacks on its contents, its supreme authority in the United States was generally well-accepted. He worked among the Jews all that time. . . The doctrine that the Bible is all of God's word falsely implies that God can no longer speak to man, that He no longer has the ability or the intent to communicate with his children, that his work is finished. Although we think of the Americas as two great continents, it is completely natural that Nephi, having sailed to the promised land, should refer to it as an isle of the sea, we have been led to a better land, for the Lord has made the sea our path, and we are upon an isle of the sea. Book of Mormon Commentary 2 Nephi 26 Page 3 of 9 2 Nephi 26:13 In the Lectures on Faith the Prophet Joseph Smith explains “that three things are necessary in order that any rational and intelligent being may exercise faith in God unto life and salvation” (3:2). It is the only one by which all this can be accounted for. It is worth noting that in this case the inverted parallel form is repeated in the next set of phrases. "Thou fool, that shall say: 'A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible.'" During the reformation Bible translators did not understand or recognize this poetic form and in many instances selected words and sentence structures in a way that much of the parallel nature of the phrasing was covered over. 237 Lecture 23 2 Nephi 32-33; Jacob 1-2 . 2 Nephi 29:13 The Words of the Nephites . God raises up wise men . The Latin Bible is Jerome's Bible. A Bible! So is it accurate to say that the Bible contains the. . 2 Nephi 9. The moment we revolt at anything which comes from God, the devil takes power. Just as the Bible is a collection of many books, and the Book of Mormon is a collection also, likewise the records of the ten lost tribes will probably be a collection of various books. 2 Nephi 29:6 Have Ye Obtained a Bible Save It Were by the Jews? Thank you for your tireless effort on this blog in our behalf. Reuchlin with the Reformation was the first one to really get into the Hebrew Bible. Hugh Nibley takes the interpretation even one step further: "These words are those of the prophet Nephi, found in the Book of Mormon, a book which in many such passages opens a window on other worlds. III, pp. Preface This has paired elements at all three levels of indentation, but it can’t be rearranged into a chevron or a double echelon. They depended a lot on Luther. . This great gathering will take place under the direction of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for he holds the keys of "the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north" (D&C 110:11). Rosh--the head. In doing so, he was not quoting from Isaiah but . This tenet holds that the Bible must be 'completely authoritative and trustworthy in all that it asserts as factual, whether in matters of theology, history, or science.' we have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible" (2 Nephi 29:3). The most extensive example I have … But great are the promises of the Lord unto them who are upon the isles of the sea; wherefore as it says isles, there must needs be more than this (2 Ne 10:20-1). No one knows how many differences, or variant readings, occur among the surviving witnesses, but they must number in the hundreds of thousands" (Ehrman, 27). If the great Jehovah wishes to add to His words, who is man to forbid Him? First, Nephi does not keep the verses in the same order as the King James Version (KJV). That means that every time in the history of the world that there has been a prophecy or revelation, that there should also be a recording of it... and it isn't a burden type thing, because it is supposed to help us when we are judged. In the process of our discussion I asked him whether or not he thought the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would be heirs of Salvation and he answered that they would. . Certainly not. they knew God personally, for they had seen Him face to face. Restating an idea or principle is one of the best ways to remember it and to have it become a part of our lives. It read first, 'The head one of the Gods brought forth the Gods.' . We Have Got a Bible: Matthew Brown comments, What of the argument that the Bible contains the. It was the Hebrew and Jerome's and Luther's bible [that influenced the King James]. I vote Ether 3-4 as the next area of commentary, for what that’s worth. . 2 Nephi 12. By the time we arrive at this point in the scripture, Nephi has already prophesied that the whole world in the last days will be engulfed in apostasy. We Have Got a Bible, and There Cannot Be Any More Bible: A Bible! [Roy E. Weldon, Book of Mormon Deeps, Vol. The "lost" books of the Bible include: In addition to these lost books of scripture, there is presently no biblical text that records the prophecy that Jesus Christ would be "called a Nazarene" (Matthew 2:23). 22:18-19: 'For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.'. This was foretold by Isaiah one hundred and forty years before the temple was demolished. The Latin Bible is Jerome's Bible. Indeed, the Prophet Joseph Smith would declare in 1832 that "From sundry revelations which have been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man, had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled" (History of the Church, 1:245). In order to do this, of course, Reuchlin and the others became ardent Hebraists. Rhyming poetry is lost in translation, but notice what occurs when the parallelism of this verse is translated into Spanish: Although the words have changed from English to Spanish, the repetition and pattern of words is obvious even to those who do not understand Spanish. . It read first, 'The head one of the Gods brought forth the Gods.' Many of those who killed and persecuted the Jews at this time were staunch believers in the Bible. 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