August 19, 2011 August 18, 2011 Andrew S. Sunday in Outer Blogness: SLC Gay Pride Parade Edition! June 10, 2012 postmormongirl. Skewing Dickens’ mildly critical praise into the height of insults, Boyd then quotes similarly “mocking” remarks from other notables. Does the honorable QAnon Shaman typify the average ANTIFA hippy. Embarrassment, misery just starting for Vols, 'Bachelor' frontrunner exits show: 'I just can't do this', 'Rooting hard for you': Trump may end WH tradition, NFL team turned a blind eye toward racial equity rule. Why does God not do anything about the suffering in the world? After all, the terms for outsiders and within-the-ranks slackers are still embedded in the Mormon lexicon: “less-actives,” “inactives,” “jack-Mormons,” “liberal Mormons,” “anti-Mormons,” and, of course, “nonmembers.” And when the self-righteous fling these assignations, they seem blissfully unconcerned that they are condemning over 99% of the earth’s population. Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign has revived interest in little-known aspects (to non-Mormons, anyway) of Mormon history. Who will preside over Trump's 2nd impeachment trial? And you’d be right. How do I ask god to "reveal himself" to me? Only their right to have them. These are all pretty good answers. The central target of Boyd’s venom is another article in The Atlantic: “One Blasphemer’s New Admiration for Mormons,” by Kurt Andersen. To really take the time to see where someone's coming from rather than getting all hostile and defensive. In every case, when we’ve politely countered their assertions, they’ve taken huge offense, claiming we didn’t respect their beliefs. (large in stature, had visions while a teenager, etc. As a “nonmember,” Andersen is unable to accept the Mormon doctrine. This is not your typical book review. Most of us should probably "check our sources" on the things we hear before categorically responding that it is false. The principle speaker was a stake high councilman. You'd think they would want to educate and set a good example to lure people in, but they would rather just insult you and turn their noses up. You’ll see little but condescension, imposing their will on others, and a nice dose of good ol’ mean-spiritedness. But I was also both surprised and embarrassed to discover that there are still Mormons out there who insist they are without blemish, while all the rest of us are covered in warts. Gathering MORE nominations for the 2017 Brodie Awards!! While its true that mormons dont have classes teaching why some various religions may be wrong, mormons have the belief that they are the only ones with the authority to direct Gods Church and His work on the earth today. Your church teaches there was. As a personal matter of interest, I like looking at questions people have on my faith. Mormons are people you are without say minorities ( iam not a racial or political lobbiest) The common main stream of society disprove of their faith so they are ridiculed about it on a regular basis. There are many other details as you can imagine. Instead, I wanted to use my recent study of the book, "More Wives Than One: Transformation of the Mormon Marriage System, 1840-1910", to help you understand a little more on why Mormons are so defensive of marriage.The fact is we've been here before. Thanks so much for reading! Sunday in Outer Blogness: The Mormon Moment is Over Edition! I do admit that i can be defensive especially against my parents because i believe it with all my heart and they believe the lies that they hear from other people. I know Mormons who will not discuss topics unless they are making a conversion and become very irritated so … Evidently he expected Andersen, an atheist, to conclude by bearing his testimony. As though that adorable chorus line of tap dancing missionaries is something akin to an “anti-Mormon” version of Charlie Hebdo. His conclusion being that it isn’t enough for “nonmembers” to merely admire the Mormons as people. I seem to remember some years back they created the position “Utah Porn Czar” and then appointed a single LDS woman who had admittedly never had sex. why does it seem like Catholics and Mormons get so defensive? Latter-day Saints hold nine of every 10 seats, while making up 60% of the population. The Church has seen much development and change through continuing revelation, and many outsiders see this as cultish. In the 18 to 29 age group, Mormons are evenly divided, with 48% approving and 48% disapproving of Trump. Trump aims to lift COVID-19 travel limits. Also the part about taking offense over the BoM musical. I agree COMPLETELY. A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism. “One Blasphemer’s New Admiration for Mormons,” by Kurt Andersen. What about my sincerely held religious beliefs that women and queers are fully equal to Mormon men? Tolls had to be paid when travelling though land and the transcontinental railroad passed to … The number of self-identifying, practicing Mormons is a fraction of that figure. Awash in self-pity, he goes on to complain: “The Catholics got The Sound of Music; the Jews got Fiddler on the Roof, and, well, the Mormons got South Park on stage.”. Part II. Not being happy reflects badly on the family, and the family is EVERYTHING. Some of what people have heard about the temple is actually based in truth (except the obvious things about sex and sacrifices in the Temple). Boasting success in his professional life, he credited his accomplishments to his compassionate approach toward the “less worthy.”, “When I mix with my worldly colleagues,” he explained, “I see them not as they are but as they could be. Now that I’ve ranted, I must add that some Mormons are genuinely wonderful people, even if overly defensive. I should have known. Dressed in white and in the Celestial Room after receiving their sacred temple endowments.”. And all of those hours of service Mormons are famous for? But try and explain that and … Well, it’s a mind-numbing experience. Sunday in Outer Blogness: It’s not over till it’s over edition!! And you are so right in pointing out that they are offended, even when complimented by outsiders, because those outsiders may not buy into their beliefs. His unrealistic expectation unmet, Boyd composed this embarrassing screed and then submitted it to a major publication. The Book of Mormon and the Bible are so vastly different there’s no way the story from Joseph Smith is plausible. soldiers girl, i ask why people hate mormons so much, but when people say lies about my own religion that i know are lies, and people eat them up and believe them, yeah im going to get defensive. Also embarrassed that after almost seven years since it opened on Broadway, Mormons like Boyd are still whining about the Book of Mormon. Here is what one non-member said of the responses she has received from self-stated active LDS people: Most of the mormons who responded proved what I already knew, that they are only respectful to their "own kind"--look at the hateful responses accusing me of being in the wrong since its impossible for a mormon to do any wrong (sarcasm). So in a not so indirect why, they are saying that all other churches are wrong. You can sign in to vote the answer. Actually, most of the anti-mormon sources that people read are from former members, and that at least half of it is based in truth. It would follow that anyone possessing such a narcissistic worldview might take offense at even the slightest criticism. Deal with it. But members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints live all over the world and across the United States. “Why are Mormons so defensive about their controversial history?” Answer: Those called “Mormons,” at this day and time, would prefer to be called members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—so there is no need to try to put them on the defensive by currently referring to them as “Mormons,” although once they wanted the world to “Meet the Mormons.” c. 2012 Religion News Service (RNS) Ask Mormons if they are Christian, and their answer often starts with a sigh. I had to, once again, remind myself that my life is offensive to most Mormons and I just need to stay silent most of the time when around them. Even Mormons probably are not aware of it because the ingrained cultural ideals go so far back. That time is almost all involved in “building the Kingdom” in one way or anther. Temple ceremonies now are not exactly the same as temple ceremonies 150, 100, 50, or even 20 years ago. People have a view that we as Mormons are excluding of others, that we thing we are always right and everyone else is always wrong about what they think of us... by calling people ignorant and insulting their intelligence, you only propogate this myth. What do you think about this saying evolution is debunked and everything is by design meaning a Creator? Ok, I will start off by saying that I am LDS. Biden says no. It is not something easy to explain, and can be seen by those not familiar with Mormon religion and history as hypocrisy. I went in and they saw my cross and they gave me dirty looks.. Put yourself in that position and you have some reasoning there. Sadly, that wasn’t good enough for Boyd, who accuses Andersen of granting faint praise while “simultaneously snickering” at his beliefs. It suggested that members of our Church can sometimes appear very defensive to those who are not members of the Church. But I digress. This is how you resurrect a parrot! Thus detracting from the efforts of Flake, Romney, and even the well-meaning Andersen. There are so many misconceptions out there and it hurts to hear them all the time. First, aren't they trying to "get the facts straight" by asking their questions? But I am surprised. They must also buy into the whole of their beliefs. In the July 2010 issue of Ensign, an official magazine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the LDS apostle M. Russell Ballard had an article entitled “Sharing the Gospel with Confidence.”Ballard’s main point is that Mormons should not get defensive when telling others what they believe. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. Yet another example of Mormon cluelessness…. As a personal matter of interest, I like looking at questions people have on my faith. As you say Donna, the LDS are so obviously aware of everyone else’s “warts” while taking extreme offense if anyone suggests their own beauty may only be skin-deep. How do you think about the answers? It suggested that members of our Church can sometimes appear very defensive to those who are not members of the Church. Even when you raise valid points in a clear, calm and concise discussion or debate they take it as an attack and contrary to their supposed 'nice guy' reputation, they attack you personally rather than adequately explain their position. Why do atheists insist they know more than God Himself? If you’re like most people, you’d probably guess that Utah has a higher percentage of LDS people than any other state. Thank you for some sanity and balance. Mormons worship Jesus, therefore they are Christian. “The Ignorance of Mocking Mormonism” by Hal Boyd. Given Boyd’s narcissistic worldview, I shouldn’t be surprised by this unfounded, self-inflicted belly-aching. Which is all I expect in return. I have posed some questions to mormons without being insulting and was told that I was ignorant just for asking! Your email address will not be published. Boyd, who is the editorial page editor for the Deseret News, introduces his tiresome screed about “Mormon mocking” with a quote from Charles Dickens: “What the Mormons do seems to be excellent, what they say is mostly nonsense.”. I admire you for this statement and think every religion suffers from the above, not just Mormons :-), thats not why...see the Book the Kingdom of the Cults by Martin. Much of Latter-day Saint religious life stems around the idea of building Zion. For instance: Joseph Smith did, indeed, have more than one wife. Update 5: Mary Redshirt. Perpetual emigration fund attracted Mormons who had the skills to pay the bills (and hence achieve self sufficiency) Problem: how could an area so barren become prosperous? 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